@Out.com: Christopher Ciccone spills his -- and big sis Madonna's -- secrets

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Christopher Ciccone released his controversial tell-all memoir Life With My Sister Madonna nearly six weeks ago and since then has hit up every media outlet that will listen to tell his tumultuous tale of working, living, feuding with and -- it should be said -- loving the Queen of Pop.

You'd think by now there'd be nothing left to ask him and he'd have nothing left to say. But you'd be wrong. We met up with Christopher to grill him on the gayer points of the book and get him to divulge some of the juicier bits that were left out. Plus, in this outtake, Ciccone discusses his friendship with super model Janice Dickinson and his guest-spot on the first episode of her reality show The Janice Dickinson Modeling Agency, which premiered (and will be rerunning) this week:

OUT: I heard you're friends with Janice Dickinson.
Christopher Ciccone: I am. I'm in the first episode of the new season of her reality show. Because she does a TV show, she disappears for 10 weeks and then there's a week cooling off period and then she does all this stuff. So the contact is kind of odd. The show is what it is -- it's all about her personality.

OUT: That's really her personality?
CC: Oh yeah. [Laughs] That's her personality. It's pumped up a little tiny bit for camera -- but that's what you get. And it’s great. It's exhausting. That week I spent with her took me another week to recover. But they've taken the models on The Janice Dickinson Modeling Agency out of the agency and they've put them all together with Janice in a house.

OUT: Like The Real World.
CC: On steroids. So I came in before the models arrived and I re-did her bedroom, essentially. The concept of a reality show is so absurd. There's no such thing. It's completely produced. I had seen the room already. I had sort of designed it. When they're shooting the shot of her calling me on the phone I'm standing in the driveway 10 feet from her and I'm supposed to be two hours away. The producers are always telling you, "Be yourself, but act like this." Or, "Talk about what you want to talk about, but can you make sure you mention this?" And you're supposed to pretend there aren't 20 people behind you. I kept thinking, <i>Why are we doing this? They are there! Let’s acknowledge the fact that they’re here. There’s the camera, look at the camera, talk to the guy who’s behind the camera.</i> And you’re not supposed to do any of that stuff. It was an interesting experience. It helped set up what I did the following week, which was shoot a pilot for my own reality show.

To find out the blood and guts (some literal) details behind the design show Christopher has in the works, as well what you're really after -- him talking a whole bunch of smack about Madonna, plus a CRAZY story he told exclusively to Out about the night Demi Moore played kamikaze milk maid that I'm still having a hard time believing (much less being OK with), read the full interview at Out.com.

-- NOAH MICHELSON